1608This is the very excellent Mick, who gave me my first job in journalism. We later lost touch, after we both moved on from the Derby Telegraph but I managed to track him down late in 2011 and we eventually met for a long-overdue catch up.

He explains in his audio clip that he was told this as a young boy by his football coach Brian (despite his protestations, our subject is a very good amateur footballer, possessing great tekkers).

Mick explains that Brian was "talking about tackling, of course, but as I've got older I realised it can be applied to lots of things about life".